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trust me, the weed is muuuuch STRONGER!!!!
Jesus Tap-DaNCIN' Christ!!!
I just got to the Dam...
Nice!
I han't smoked for about a year in the states. I bought some week stuff from that shop above hanky panky. I think it was called white tai or white tiger? I took threee good tokes at 2:00. I walked aroun town like a zombie for a while. My heart was a poundin! I thought every one was out to get me!! This lasted for quite some time. I think i'm just gonna give this shite away and find somthin else!
Ps. Whats up with the fucking greetingS here?
Here it is..."COKE,COKE,COKE,COKE,CHARLIE,XSTAYS"
i WANT TO WEAR A SHIRT...
"NO COKE, NO CHARLIE...FUCK OFF"
OUR-FEET-ERE-INSANE-
n8
Glad to hear you're moderately enjoying it, I think.
For reference though, what did you smoke in the states, and where was it from (i.e. commercial mexican middies from the midwest, or are we talking stronger then B.C. grown, Pacific Northwest dank?)
Finally someone who's experiences parallel my own "lightweight" experiences in the Dam! None of this coffeeshop crawl for me!
I think its a good idea to try and work on the "panic reaction", though.
I have read a lot of good advice here. Try thinking of where you
will be once you are finished smoking.
For some reason, I find getting really toasted in the Centrum and wandering around aimlessly to be a little disconcerting when 1st acclimating to the Dam. I like to do something quieter like head to one of the nice parks, if the weather permits.
I use to smoke everyday until about 2 months ago and the wed over there knocks me for a loop as well. Just ask the dealer for sdomething light that won't make you wacky... I like the white melon from the noon.... Also, just take one hit and put it out... that's all you need....
There is no way I could hang w/ some of the members on this board... though would love to meet them I would end up in a pshyc ward if I tried to smoke like they do... we don't buy in a week what they smoke in a day!!
God this is idiotic. It is such a useless comparison! There are hundreds of coffeeshops serving different strains and crops.
_non, you want clarification about what bud he smokes in America, so you can compare it with every marijuana plant in Amsterdam? It's crazy.
It's like a recent discussion about hating 'Americans' or 'the French' it implies a homogeneity that is just not there.
You will find strong weed in Amsterdam, you will find nice tasting weed in Amsterdam, you will find an amazing selection of hashes, what's more you will find a lovely city with friendly people (most all of whom speak English.)
If that's not enough for you you should really stay at home and smoke your awesome weed. Maybe it does have a higher THC count than the best stuff in Amsterdam...personally I wouldn't care....
I think comparisons between A'dam weed and US or Canadian weed is evitable because of the constant Hightimes-like hyping of Dutch weed in some forums and web sites.
I've seen it many times here on Channels when people post on how fantastic and great the Dutch weed is and I think it leads to a false sense of expectations among some who have yet to go to Amsterdam. Usually those same people seem to be smoking schwaggie or Mexican at home so no wonder the Dutch weed seems so good.
When the US smoker who is already smoking #1 grade weed goes over and smokes the Dutch weed....he or she tends not to be nearly as impressed. You hear continually from the experienced smokers and pot authors and growers how disappointed they were when they finally smoked the Dutch product. This has been a constant theme for many years so its not surprising to hear it on Channels.
Latrist, you seem to be a little controlling there with your stay at home comment. Believe it or not, lots of people go to Amsterdam for other things besides smoking pot. Even though most of the people at Channels seem to only care about pot, prostitutes and food, there are many who visit Amsterdam for the culture and charm. The quality of smoke to many isn't that important particularly if they have better smoke back home.
Latrist, you seem to be a little controlling there with your stay at home comment. Believe it or not, lots of people go to Amsterdam for other things besides smoking pot. Even though most of the people at Channels seem to only care about pot, prostitutes and food, there are many who visit Amsterdam for the culture and charm. The quality of smoke to many isn't that important particularly if they have better smoke back home.
Duh, that's the point LTD's trying to make. If all you care about is comparing strengths of weed, stay at home. Sounds pretty simple. Can't you read?
Why the hostility?
It's nice to be forewarned about a safe number of tokes to take in the beginning, so the weekend doesn't become lost. I look forward to seeing something other than amsterdam while am there. And comparing is fun!! Like wine, so much to learn. It isn't all about smoking ourselves stupid. It's about flavor, types of high, etc. It's about enjoying the differences....;)
God this is idiotic. It is such a useless comparison! There are hundreds of coffeeshops serving different strains and crops.
The degrees of quality probably vary less then in the traditional blackmarket though. The Dutch have become known for techniques of growing that should yeild a decent percentage of THC compared to the overall growth period of the plant.
_non, you want clarification about what bud he smokes in America, so you can compare it with every marijuana plant in Amsterdam? It's crazy.
*sigh*.. No, just look at the title of the thread. To say something is "muuuch stronger" needs a frame of reference. It's implied in his initial statement, I was just commenting that he didn't offer it (thus making his post a bit on the pointless side). If he hailed from Seattle or Humbolt county, this would mean more then Ft.Wayne,Indiana (for example_).
I've lived throughout the USA - certain regions are renouned for certain degrees of quality (and certain genetic strains).
It's like a recent discussion about hating 'Americans' or 'the French' it implies a homogeneity that is just not there.
I beg to differ, homogeny is there - especially in regards to nederwiet. Certain regions foster certain grow techniques, a B.C. grower is a seperate entity from a Northern Cal grower or a Dutch Grower (imports into these regions are a different matter - but organized crime creates a homogeny in the UK with the dreaded soapbar hash, and in the midwest with the mexican brick - for added example). Even further, the post growth harvesting and curing process vary from region to region as well.
Maybe it does have a higher THC count than the best stuff in Amsterdam...personally I wouldn't care....
Then maybe you shouldn't be posting in this thread, per chance?
You see, I took his inital post as a warning ("hey guys, I didn't believe it - but watch out, this stuff can really be killer! take it slow at first! heh"). To get the most out of his public service announcement I questioned for the frame of reference. Logical, me thinks.
I may be wrong about his initial motivations (in fact, now I'm pretty sure I was), but that's what I was thinking that night..
God this is idiotic. It is such a useless comparison! There are hundreds of coffeeshops serving different strains and crops.
The degrees of quality probably vary less then in the traditional blackmarket though. The Dutch have become known for techniques of growing that should yeild a decent percentage of THC compared to the overall growth period of the plant.
_non, you want clarification about what bud he smokes in America, so you can compare it with every marijuana plant in Amsterdam? It's crazy.
*sigh*.. No, just look at the title of the thread. To say something is "muuuch stronger" needs a frame of reference. It's implied in his initial statement, I was just commenting that he didn't offer it (thus making his post a bit on the pointless side). If he hailed from Seattle or Humbolt county, this would mean more then Ft.Wayne,Indiana (for example_).
I've lived throughout the USA - certain regions are renouned for certain degrees of quality (and certain genetic strains).
It's like a recent discussion about hating 'Americans' or 'the French' it implies a homogeneity that is just not there.
I beg to differ, homogeny is there - especially in regards to nederwiet. Certain regions foster certain grow techniques, a B.C. grower is a seperate entity from a Northern Cal grower or a Dutch Grower (imports into these regions are a different matter - but organized crime creates a homogeny in the UK with the dreaded soapbar hash, and in the midwest with the mexican brick - for added example). Even further, the post growth harvesting and curing process vary from region to region as well.
Maybe it does have a higher THC count than the best stuff in Amsterdam...personally I wouldn't care....
Then maybe you shouldn't be posting in this thread, per chance?
You see, I took his inital post as a warning ("hey guys, I didn't believe it - but watch out, this stuff can really be killer! take it slow at first! heh"). To get the most out of his public service announcement I questioned for the frame of reference. Logical, me thinks.
I may be wrong about his initial motivations (in fact, now I'm pretty sure I was), but that's what I was thinking that night..
I was actually directing the first part of my reply to the original poster, who I felt was putting fuel on the fire of this stupid debate.
The comments directed towards you are the ones after I address you...and if you say that all BC Bud and All California bud is alike and everyone uses the same growing techniques, I believe you, I guess, but it just seems rather far-fetched to imagine that there is no variation of quality.
NON said;
"If he hailed from Seattle or Humbolt county, this would mean more then Ft.Wayne,Indiana (for example_). "
That is about as silly as it comes. Why does it matter where in the US you hail from? Ever heard of the internet? Seed companies have been sending out award winning seeds for years now and every state in the the union has growers using them. Dank can be had everywhere now. FYI, the Bubblegum and the Crazy White strains were both developed in Indiana.
FYI, in case you want to see some Dank from Indiana
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=f00cd13c358c60bee51fcbb90695ad12&postid=3226937#post3226937
Different Danks from Indiana
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery.php?action=folder&s=f00cd13c358c60bee51fcbb90695ad12&userid=9060&galsort=date
What is this "dreaded soapbar hash"?
Is it really awful?
My bad, I must have been a little touchie this morning. ;)
It's not that they are all the same, but the to which we find variation that comes into question. To me, certain regions have a far lower degree of variation - but I'm only speaking to general extrinsic qualities (i.e. not specifics like genetics). To get more specific, we'd have to address specific locations, which probably goes deeper then this thread is aiming. Suffice to say that for the same reason people can identify Moroccan pressed hash due to qualities like the pressing patterns on a bisection, look of the grains and it's high - people can identify Amsterdam vs. Nor-Cal. vs. B.C. buds. It takes familiarity with the region, for sure.. but the simple fact that these identifications exist is testiment to what I'm speaking of (unless you wish to challenge that these identifications are anything more then speculative assumptions for would-be connoisseur in the first place).
NON said;
"If he hailed from Seattle or Humbolt county, this would mean more then Ft.Wayne,Indiana (for example_). "
That is about as silly as it comes. Why does it matter where in the US you hail from? Ever heard of the internet? Seed companies have been sending out award winning seeds for years now and every state in the the union has growers using them. Dank can be had everywhere now. FYI, the Bubblegum and the Crazy White strains were both developed in Indiana.
FYI, in case you want to see some Dank from Indiana
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=f00cd13c358c60bee51fcbb90695ad12&postid=3226937#post3226937
Different Danks from Indiana
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery.php?action=folder&s=f00cd13c358c60bee51fcbb90695ad12&userid=9060&galsort=date
You're generalizing my words to much. Dank CAN be found anywhere, but your chances increase in certain locations. It's the dank:schwag ratio that every geographic location holds. Acid can be found anywhere as well, but it's like water in san francisco, know what I mean?
I didn't mean to knock Indi, I used to part in indianapolis and cocamo (sp?) in the early 90s, and saw some decent herb - but on the AVERAGE, it wasn't. Same for Ohio. Same for many other locations. most growers in the midwest I knew started from personal seed stock, but I also stated genetics weren't in my equation above.
Hawaii, Amsterdam, B.C., Jamaca, NorCal and Nepal all have schwag as well - but on average you'll come across Canna-Photojournal quality product.
Ultimately though, in places with an entrenched sense of community and history regarding cannabis cultivation (which WASN'T the midwest of my youth - in no shape or form unless I was severely deluded) you get more uniformity in product, as many growers share and adopt similar techniques - seeds - curing practices. Seemed like this would be common sense, I'm surprised anybody would wish to arge such salient facts as community's contribution to homogeny.
btw - where did you learn that bubblegum and crazy white came from indiana? I doubt that hightly (simply because the activities of underground economies are rarely documented emperically).
What is this "dreaded soapbar hash"?
Is it really awful?
http://www.channels.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2217
Yeah, it seems to be.
_non, yo' buddy, what gives? You go into this lengthy diatribe concerning weed quality because this threads originator stated, "trust me, the weed is muuuuch STRONGER!!!!", and you felt like challenging the statement.
Yet, you throw around comments concerning UK's "soaphash" like it's a given fact. But it's not much more than a similar comment (but in the negative).
The guy thought the weed was STRONG. Congratulate him on having a great buzz, and if you're interested ask what strain he was smokin'. When you finally make that trip to the 'Dam you can taste for yourself.
I would rather have hash anyday but yes the top quality weed is stronger to the extent that it makes me feel very tired and basically just ruins my day. Anyone else have the same opinion??
Non, you went from silly to even sillier. You were in Indy TEN YEARS ago and you know the scene now? Really? Whats going around in my part of Indy now? My brothers live in Louisville and Cincinnati. What is going around there right now? You don't know of course. I have a fishing buddy that lives 3 miles from me. He works at a diferent place than I do and has different connections than I do. He gets Dank but different Dank than me because I don't know his people and vice-versa. Different connections get different types so you can't know what is available even if you live in the same town.
Anybody (even you) can grow Dank because of the seedbanks that deliver to anywhere. Anybody anywhere in any small or big town can grow the same Dank as what is sold in coffeeshops. Thats why it is really silly to say you even have an idea of what is available places you don't live.
"btw - where did you learn that bubblegum and crazy white came from indiana? I doubt that hightly (simply because the activities of underground economies are rarely documented emperically). "
Because it says on the outside of the Serious Seeds Bubblegum packet (for which they won 2 cups) that the strain originated in Indiana. Crazy White was featured in the Cannabis Culture magazine a few months back and the breeder said was a direct descendent of the old SSSC Hoot an'Holler which was from Indiana.
I am going to have to agree with NON on this one. If the weed in the Dam is MUUUUUUCH STRONGER, stronger than what? The phlem that I just spit out? The bleach under my kitchen sink? You must have a point of reference to make that kind of statement.
Eddie Murphy once said that if you go without food for while, then a ritz cracker would be the best tasting cracker that you've ever had. Same goes for weed. If you've smoked mexi crap for most of your life, like in Aurora, Colorado, then watch out! The weed in the Dam will kill you! But if you are from Oregon like I am, then the weed in the Dam is alright. Then, its the variety the Dam has to offer is what sets it apart.
Other than that, this arguing IS silly. I don't go for the weed. If I wanted good DANK, hit you in the ass kind of smoke, then I would do what Latrist said, and just go back to Oregon and visit my friends and have the smoke I am always looking for. I go for the hash, the freedom of being able to smoke what I want without looking over my shoulder, and the people in the Dam. I personally would still go if they didn't have hash. The freedom to walk into a shop and buy smoke is welcoming enough for me to spend thousands on a trip to the Dam, let alone the cultural treasures!
Anyways, just thought I'd put in my 2 cents. No anger, no worries. Just opinions and no put downs (of any kind). Tolerance is the key. Just look at the Netherlands. I think we could all learn something from the Dutch.
Peace and Prosperity
You sure it was Eddie Murphy and not Mr. Nabisco?
THis is the most ridiculous thread i think ive ever seen. And who else then to keep it going and going and going...none other than the infamous _non with his archeological posts that dig deep into every point and ever sentence.
RIDICULOUS!
I agree with Danny Mac and his post.
SLainte,
JUJU
with his archeological posts that dig deep into every point and ever sentence.
JUJU
Umm.. I count a full six posts after my last - which, I might add, was a reply to people speaking directly to me. Me thinks you have some perspective difficulties you need ironed out.
Secondly, I obviously don't dig into every sentence - though I would take it as a compliment if I did. So, since that's obviously not 100%, what is the reality? That I dig into "some" sentences and points expressed by another writer? How is "some" equal to "every"? How is "some" in any way a detraction? Isn't that what we would wish to see on a discussion forum (examinations of issues that go beyond the surface level)?
Anyhow, see souleast's reiteration of my point if your inability to understand me persists.
I'm not challenging the statement, I'm waiting for him to complete it. If I say "X is stronger then .. .. .. .. .." you'd expect me to eventually state another item in relation to X, wouldn't you..
That's all I was saying.
Yet, you throw around comments concerning UK's "soaphash" like it's a given fact. But it's not much more than a similar comment (but in the negative).
Read the link I supplied, or - better yet - go to yahoo and search "soapbar hash" (with quotation marks). You'll see that my mere "opinion" is quite factual. Soapbar is uniformly dismissed as being VERY BAD for your health, and to be avoided.
http://www.dobbsy.com/soapbar.html
I had a mini-crisis (that existed solely in my head) regarding my girlfriend over the last week or so, and that prevented me from really getting into anything but the most superficial of posts. My lack of commenting should be taken as a compliment to the subject matter, and my desire to do it justice only when I can focus my whole being upon it. ;)
Thankfully, as implied, that crisis has turned itself into a goddess-send, and I'm walking on air again. Expect me to dig those old posts up very soon.
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