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What to ask for when buying mushrooms???? First Timer




I am heading to Amsterdam and would love to try mushrooms. I have never tried them or anything like that such as acid/LSD. I was wondering if you can go in to the smart shops and tell that to the people working there and would they be able to recommend me something that is not tripy but something that makes you happy and giggle.

Can anyone reccomend mushrooms that arent too tripy but give you more of a happy buzz and make you laugh.
What way do you buy them? Quantity/Weight? How much should i take and should i do them in my hotel room? If i dont like the buzz can i come off it anyway? Can you smoke while taking mushrooms? Can you drink beer?
Hope some of you can give me your experiences and help me out a bit, and hopefully when i go i will have the balls to try them. as im still a bit frightened.
Thanks :-) xo
If you have never done any LSD or Mushrooms before, or nothing of the sort, then it is best to have a 'Guide', so to speak.
They tend to unleash things in you, in a mental way, and at a rather fast pace.
Not that they are overpowering, but can be a bit intense at times. Depending on your mind set at the time, you may be depressed, happy, crying, laughing, smiling or frowning, or even jumping for joy.... Even all at once.
If you are determined to try some, then try Philisopher Stones at just about any Smart Shop, or even at the Hemp Works Store around the corner from Old Style Coffeeshop. Or the Mexican variety is kind of nice. Start with say a gram, and again I still suggest a guide.
Anyhow, the shops have charts that show their prices and effects. They are very friendly and open and will give you advice on the effects and such. I am not an avid shopper of such, but have seen prices from 15 Euros to 25 or 30 Euros a gram. Pending some shops have a special when you buy 4 or 5 packs, so it reduces the cost a bit to buy a little more at once. Hemp Works has buy 3 and get the fourth free...
Now, I would not suggest that you drink much, if anything with them, maybe at most a bear to wash them down with. I just use pepsi, as I never drink.
However, it is almost a given that I am going to smoke, even with shrooms. Most of the time the Ghanja can't catch up to the shroom buzz, but makes nice for the taste.
Shrooms tend to open your pupils, and you see things clearer sometimes. Bright lights will trip you out in the evening hours. Most likely you will just laugh it off, but shrooms is a very controllable high, once used to it. It is easier to control your actions than your thoughts while buzzing on the shrooms.
If you feel you are getting too high, retreat to a quite place and relax, the buzz will relax, so to speak, with you...
If the dirt like taste bothers you, then just put the shrooms on a slice of Pizza, also available in many areas of AMS, especially Damrak.
Anyhow, this ought to help you some,
Best Regards,
LH
If you only take a gram you won't feel anything. Best to start off with 15 grams. Most everybody takes 30 grams. http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=c365b365fdda9f223e8a464256349ccd&postid=4053354#post4053354
Have a good chat with the salesperson in the smart shop. Thats what I did. They will be able to tell you what sort of trip the mushrooms give, and tell you a recomended dose.

Make sure you have plenty of orange juice or other sweet drink with you when you take the shrooms. If you drink those it will help you out of the trip a little, which you may need if you have a bad trip. I have done them twice and never would again personally! The first time I had an awesome time, really beautiful visual effects, but it took me about a week afterwards to feel 'normal' again. The second time the person I was with had a bad trip and spent the whole time crying which really freaked me out! The effect generally was also very different, felt a little bit like I had taken E (X) but trippy visuals at the same time. Hard to explain. Be careful who you take it with. My personal experience says don't take it with someone who is depressed or feeling down, as I think that may lead to a bad trip for them which will probably bring you down too.

Have fun, relax, enjoy yourself.

Oh, and mushrooms taste HORRIBLE!! I had to eat them between two pringles, otherwise the taste made me heave!!
firsttimetripper - there seems to be a little miscommunication here. Everybody's right in their own way :) Let me preface this by saying that everything I've read about shrooms in Amsterdam says "talk to the dealer. They'll know exactly how much you'll need of any one variety, if you tell them the effect you're looking for" or some such. This is good advice, not a blow-off.

Most places you'll find shrooms will have fresh mushrooms. At least on display. The fresh ones come (I think) in a 30 gram container. When LastHamlet was referring to taking 1 gram and Guest said you'd never feel anything, that's because LastHamlet was probably referring to shrooms. Dried shrooms are "officially" unavailable for purchase since when dried they fall under the category of hard drugs...go figure. Apparently, in some shops, if the dealer thinks you're ok (or maybe if you ask nicely) then sometimes the dried ones magically appear.

Ok, so 1 gram dried is equivalent to 10 grams fresh. 10-15 grams fresh would make for an enjoyably strong, but not (hopefully) overwhelming trip from the Mexican Cubensis. 30 grams will definitely put you in another place, but may be ill-advised for a first-timer. Other varieties can have VERY different dosages, so this is where you'll want to ask your friendly smart shop employee for help. Or you can zip on over to http://www.erowid.org/ They've got all sorts of info on shrooms. Including this link http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_dose.shtml about dosage for Psilocybe Cubensis.

Last bit of advice: Eat them on an empty (2-3 hours) stomach, chew or grind them up well (helps avoid a tummy ache), keep some orange or grapefruit juice handy in case it gets too intense (it'll chill you out), roll a few bombers while you're waiting for them to kick in (you may not be able to roll after they start, and it'll chill you out when you smoke them later also). Happy tripping!
Thanks guys for all the advice. I think im gonna see when i get over there who else will take them with me as i dint want to do them on my own. Is it a better idea to do them early in the day and in the comfort and safety of my hotel room?
When you see god a while after taking the mushrooms, tell her Dogbreath says hallo.

:-) Dogbreath
hey, i thought god was a big multi-colored bird creature. at least thats what he looked like to me one night after having some of mexicos finest. thought he'd never leave.
firsttimetripper - there seems to be a little miscommunication here. Everybody's right in their own way :) Let me preface this by saying that everything I've read about shrooms in Amsterdam says "talk to the dealer. They'll know exactly how much you'll need of any one variety, if you tell them the effect you're looking for" or some such. This is good advice, not a blow-off.

Most places you'll find shrooms will have fresh mushrooms. At least on display. The fresh ones come (I think) in a 30 gram container. When LastHamlet was referring to taking 1 gram and Guest said you'd never feel anything, that's because LastHamlet was probably referring to shrooms. Dried shrooms are "officially" unavailable for purchase since when dried they fall under the category of hard drugs...go figure. Apparently, in some shops, if the dealer thinks you're ok (or maybe if you ask nicely) then sometimes the dried ones magically appear.

Ok, so 1 gram dried is equivalent to 10 grams fresh. 10-15 grams fresh would make for an enjoyably strong, but not (hopefully) overwhelming trip from the Mexican Cubensis. 30 grams will definitely put you in another place, but may be ill-advised for a first-timer. Other varieties can have VERY different dosages, so this is where you'll want to ask your friendly smart shop employee for help. Or you can zip on over to http://www.erowid.org/ They've got all sorts of info on shrooms. Including this link http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_dose.shtml about dosage for Psilocybe Cubensis.

Last bit of advice: Eat them on an empty (2-3 hours) stomach, chew or grind them up well (helps avoid a tummy ache), keep some orange or grapefruit juice handy in case it gets too intense (it'll chill you out), roll a few bombers while you're waiting for them to kick in (you may not be able to roll after they start, and it'll chill you out when you smoke them later also). Happy tripping!


Thanks for clearing that up, I was indeed talking the dried variety, (as you said, can magically appear if you seem cool.) Also, as you pointed out are offically unavailable to date, as dried mushrooms have been deemed illegal.
Delta9's post is more acurate and complete in comparison to mine. Much more complete and the best advice to take firsttimer. Hats off Dela9, that was a lot better than what I had.
Best Regards and Happy Shroomin,
LH
Thanks for the kind words LastHamlet, you had quite a bit of good stuff in your post as well. Just didn't want the poor person to eat 1g fresh and blow it off. :)


Keep in mind, I tend to be a bit cautious at first, so this may not jive with your feelings, but I personally would only do shrooms around people that I knew well (at least the first time). And I'd only do shrooms to get out and be social while shrooming, then just don't take as much...10-15g fresh. If you want personal growth, then take a little more 25-30g fresh, and sit in silent darkness (a la Terence McKenna).


I've always heard to start in the late afternoon/early evening, in your room until they kick in anywhere from 30mins-1hr. See how you feel, then decide if you want to be wandering around a strange city all discombobulated. They'll last around 3 hours, so plan accordingly.

P.S. I've heard good things about the Hawaiians as well, more visual than introspective like the Mexicans.
Personally I do not like doing shrooms in a hotel room. I like to be outdoors in a place where you don't have to "cope" with anything e.g. Vondelpark on a nice day. If your hotel is near any kind of peaceful outdoor place then you can have the best of both. If you get tired or cold you can repair to your room and watch cartoons in Dutch!
Be careful about the advice above to have a couple of joints handy to "chill out" Ganga may have the opposite effect and enhance the trip. Valium or something similar is a good antihallucinate aand it will bring you down quickly.
Pax
First time tripper; first of all, since you haven't done mushrooms before and you seem to have a lot of anxiety about it....forget about doing them in Amsterdam. New drug experience, strange unfamiliar place plus your anxiety has freakout trip written all over it.

Second...if you do decide to trip, then fresh mushrooms are the way to go. Invariably, dried mushrooms aren't as potent as the equivilent as fresh mushrooms. You might get dried mushrooms that are as potent as fresh ones if they were dried perfectly but in my experience, even airdrying mushrooms in a dark cool place never were as potent as the fresh ones. Alternative methods of drying magic mushrooms using a dehydrator at lowest temp or a hair-dryer on cool seemed always to degrade the potency a discernable amount.

Fresh mushrooms are not only preferred from the potency standpoint but for other reasons also. Fresh magic mushrooms have very short shelf life ...a matter of days even if refrigerated properly. When they start to degrade, they quickly become slimy so it is easy to tell if the fresh mushrooms are really fresh.

Dry mushrooms have a shelf life in terms of weeks and months. The older they are, the less psychoactive they tend to be. However, a one month old dried mushroom looks like a six month old mushroom. Dried mushrooms don't have the "sliminess" clue that the fresh mushrooms have when showing that they are starting to degrade. You can't tell how old dried mushrooms are and practically non-psychoactive dried mushrooms will look the same as psychoactive dried ones.

Asking for dried magic mushrooms in a smart shop won't make you look cool...more like a fool. One, fresh mushrooms will always be as potent or more potent as the equivilent dried mushrooms and the freshness can be estimated since they degrade so quickly. Two, since dried mushrooms are illegal in the Netherlands, you are asking the seller of the mushrooms to commit an illegal act so he or she will have no compunction at all in selling you dried mushrooms that may be months and months old and be practically non-psychoactive. If you are silly enough to ask for an illegal "substance" , they might just reward you with some worthless dried mushrooms they have in back to sell to tourists who come in asking for dried mushrooms.

But as I said in the beginning...considering your inexperience and anxiety, you might want to put your first magic mushroom experience in Amsterdam on hold until you have tripped in a familiar environment.
I have tried and tried to find something true and useful in the above post. For the life of me I cannot.
Pax
Smart shops say not to use shrooms if you are taking antidepressants, so I never have. Anyone know what the side effects might be and how serious they could be?

guest96
I know that if you're taking an MAOI, that it can multiply the effect by many times. Think overwhelmingly intense trip on a small amount. Other antidepressants, I'm not sure...
I have ate them about ten times, on several trips, and only once did I have a bad experience. I was a little sick, with a cold or something, and it was very rainy that day. I ate the 30grm pack and smoked a few joints in the begining of the trip. After maybe an hour or so , I kind of lost control of my mind and started thinking crazy things. I Honestly believed that I was dead and that nobody could see me. At one point, I could not grasp a though, it was crazy. I was in the hotel, so all was well. It freaked me out a little but I was fine in a few hours. Every other time that I ate them I had a great time. I had many laughs while riding that high.

firsttimer, you should take the advice posted here and only eat 15grm, do it with friends, be in a good mood, have a j or two rolled in case you're feeling up to the smoke, be safe, you're fine and have a good time.
A great calculator for dosing of Magic Mushrooms is here. http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:Fp9vVQBAEo4J:www.growmagicmushrooms.co.uk/Dosage%2520and%2520Ingestion.htm+%22magic+mushrooms%22++fresh+dry&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 It helps you figure how much you should take considering the deterioration there is when the mushrooms are dried and if you are taking a MAO Inhibitor and how trippy you want to get.

Does anybody know which kind of Magic Mushrooms Rafe1 has here? http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=c365b365fdda9f223e8a464256349ccd&postid=4053354#post4053354
Thanks for your response Delta9. I am not on an MAOI, but Wellbutrin which works on dopamine and norepinephrine... I can see now that my question is more complicated than I first suspected!
More complicated indeed, and way too deep for my short legs! LOL Just be safe! There's alot of good information in this post by everyone, especially about your attitude and being "in a good place" when tripping. I surely wouldn't stop taking any prescribed medications, so if that means you'll get a bad reaction, I'd say either avoid the shrooms or talk to a/your doctor about it. Do what thou wilt. ;)
I believe those mushies that Rafe has aree some fresh Stropharia Cubensis mushies.
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